Hey Nerds! This week Samantha and Sarah are talking about a family annihilator and a senseless murder. After the break, hear a WILD true story from a friend of the podcast, technical difficulties for Samantha’s grandmother, and the ladies play Friend or Faux again.

Samantha’s sources for this week are:

“John List” from Wikipedia and her own personal knowledge of the case from listening to a ton of podcasts over the years on this case. My Favorite Murder, Let’s Go To Court, and Morbid are the first that come to mind. Thank you, ladies!

Sarah’s sources for this week are:

newspapers.com articles from

The Salt Lake Tribune

KSL News

Legacy Obituaries

Dateline NBC: S21 E48: Mystery at Payson Canyon