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In the late nineties Desmond Tutu started a controversial program in post apartheid, anyone who would come forward to admit their crimes, including murder, would be forgiven. Many asked was this taking forgiveness too far? 

In this episode we discuss what forgiveness is, and what it isn't. We analyze the story of Marcus Aurelius and how he handled a civil war justly through forgiveness. We discuss how to fire people justly, what to do in a basketball game when someone fouls you and there is no call, and end the episode with a Stoic Reimagining of the Weekend's song: "Die For You."