Marisa Dabice of Mannequin Pussy joins us to talk about turning the optimism knob from "zero" to "one" after the election, and then back down to "zero" after a few days. We also discuss what DIY will look like after COVID, the perfect timing of the new "chef's kiss" and "happy-cry" emojis, Marisa's 15-year-old nug of weed, and how Mannequin Pussy fits in the saga of Jeff's weird ex-roommate.

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