I'm joined by @Jaredeppss  - he's an artist, bass player, singer, songwriter & podcaster, beatles maniac, collector of things, frequent concert goer, retail worker, and also my cousin. We talk about all kinds of stuff...the elusive nature of ideas, turning 25, deleting social media, finding your own space, raising kids in a pandemic, baseball, all kinds of things. Check him out on SoundCloud - and YouTube . And listen to the CAM Podcast.

The first podcast recorded at Blue Picasso studios. Don't mind the echos and strange sounds...audio will improve from here.