Kelby and I met in Oklahoma. He took a Greyhound up from Houston to do a reading at the Blue Bonnet Bar. We had a crazy night, and let my buddy Eric give us freehand tattoos.

Well, today Kelby has a new book out, Heathenish, from Broken River Books. It's a punchy, fast ride through lowdown Houston with a bunch of hoodrats. Tons of memorable scenes. Heartfelt writing.

Kelby came on the show to talk about growing up in those neighborhoods, what makes people bad, and why he doesn't ever want to be a full-time writer.