In this episode, we give a few life updates and chat about a few music documentaries we've watched recently ("Everybody's Everything" about Lil' Peep; "Montage of Heck" about Kurt Cobain; "In Wonder" about Shawn Mendes; "Amy" about Amy Winehouse). This launches us into a conversation about our current relationship with learning and practicing music, our feelings about fame, and the different ways that innate talent, genius, practice and support intersect.

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