In this episode, Natasha makes Jessica watch Danny Phantom, a cartoon about a boy who is a ghost superhero because obviously that is what you do when you become a ghost. Listen to us talk about the brilliant way this show does exposition, our little jock boy who is also a teacher's pet, and the unhinged parenting Danny and Jazz are subjected to. Then hear us ponder how the heck this show thinks cloning works if the answer isn't either Danny or Dani is trans. Like. Fundamentally, what does the word cloning mean to them?

Will Jessica go ghost mode and watch this show? Or will she disappear through the ghost door forever? You'll have to listen to find out.

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