Love Conquers Fear

#62: Rebuilding Trust: AI Agents, Human Dignity, and Universal Basic Capital — Peng T. Ong


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What you’ll hear in this episode:

- How fear-fed algorithms and fake news break shared reality

- Why trust is scarce in the AI era, and how AI can rebuild it at scale

- The abundance gap in education, with hundreds of millions still at risk of never learning to read

- AI as a coach and cheerleader that can expand human potential

- Universal Basic Capital (UBC) as a stronger answer than UBI when intelligence gets cheap

- How AI forces a metaphysics conversation, and why “AI is conscious” is premature


About Love Conquers Fear:

In an era of exponentially evolving AI and robotics, one question looms: Will humanity make it? Love Conquers Fear is where leadership meets love, technology serves humanity, and vision becomes action. Host, Brett Alexander Hurt, tech entrepreneur and investor, sits down with some of the world’s most influential people to ask: Will we unite to create the Age of Abundance for All? These conversations are calls to action, awakening leaders everywhere to rise and help humanity choose the Light.


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About Peng Ong:

Peng Ong is a Singapore-based entrepreneur and investor who has spent decades building and backing technology companies across the U.S. and Asia. He’s the founding partner of Monk’s Hill Ventures, and his work spans company building, venture investing, and long-range thinking about how technology reshapes society. Peng’s core focus is what comes next as AI scales: trust, education, human-centered guidance, and economic models designed for abundance.


Timestamps:

0:00:00 — Preview

0:01:09 — Intro: UT Dell Medical School, Brett's new book

0:05:06 — Welcome Peng Ong

0:07:43 — Singapore roots, purpose, entrepreneurship, unlocking human potential

0:24:17 — AI commoditizing intelligence, scarcity of trust, fact-checking + trust agents

0:40:11 — WW2 survival, AGI race, tribalism, economic singularity

0:56:23 — Algorithmic fear, UBI vs. universal basic capital, spiritual texts, human-centered tech

1:12:17 — Avoiding a future of inequality, freedom vs. control, consciousness vs. intelligence

1:24:07 — Consciousness as a full-body mystery + consciousness books

1:29:35 — Closing reflections


Books mentioned in this episode:

- The Tao of Willie — Willie Nelson, Turk Pipkin

- From Third World to First — Lee Kuan Yew

- The AI Ten Commandments — Jamie Metzl

- The Diamond Age — Neal Stephenson

- The Fourth Age — Byron Reese

- Deep Future — Pablos Holman

- Bhagavad Gita — Stephen Mitchell (tr.)

- Tao Te Ching — Stephen Mitchell (tr.)

- The Singularity Is Nearer — Ray Kurzweil

- The Singularity Is Near — Ray Kurzweil

- A World Appears — Michael Pollan

- The Secret of Secrets — Dan Brown

- Living in a Mindful Universe — Eben Alexander, Karen Newell

- Proof of Heaven — Eben Alexander

- The Map of Heaven — Eben Alexander

- Stalking the Wild Pendulum — Itzhak Bentov


Links:

UT Dell Medical Center: https://tinyurl.com/33pd2fue

Michael and Susan Dell giving over $1B to UT Austin: https://tinyurl.com/yd8zcfyz

Plato’s "Allegory of the Cave" (8-Bit Philosophy): https://tinyurl.com/46kh4632

Fix the News: https://fixthenews.com/

The Progress Network: https://tinyurl.com/4sdm8ddf

Elon Musk’s interview with Larry Fink at Davos 2026: https://tinyurl.com/nhj4uef7

Michael Dell gifting $6.25B to U.S. children born from 2025 to 2028: https://tinyurl.com/3xak6e3a

Dario Amodei’s essay “The Adolescence of Technology”: https://tinyurl.com/235a2n3t

Hartmut Neven’s TED Talk on quantum computing: https://tinyurl.com/535w253c

Anil Seth’s TED Talk on AI intelligence vs. human consciousness: https://tinyurl.com/465a9jyt

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Love Conquers FearBy Brett Alexander Hurt and guests