Dr. Travis Heath joins me to discuss many of the problematic norms in both therapeutic and academic communities. We talk about the war on drugs, therapy and how it works, systems approaches and how to teach them, gender and how it instigates unconscious (and often toxic) performances, drugs, crime, trauma, reauthoring, ideas and who owns them, approaches to therapy, and our cultural lust for revenge in place of restoration. 

We also discuss anti-racism, the digital commons, critical race theory (CRT), and more.

Dr. Heath teaches at the University of Denver and provides therapeutic treatment to court ordered defendants in criminal cases. 

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