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628. Sludge, Part 2: Is Government the Problem, or the Solution?


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There is no sludgier place in America than Washington, D.C. But there are signs of a change. We’ll hear about this progress — and ask where Elon Musk and DOGE fit in. (Part two of a two-part series.)

 

  • SOURCES:
    • Benjamin Handel, professor of economics at UC Berkeley.
    • Neale Mahoney, professor of economics at Stanford University.
    • Jennifer Pahlka, founder of Code for America.
    • Richard Thaler, professor of economics at The University of Chicago.

 

  • RESOURCES:
    • "How Big Is the Subscription Cancellation Problem?" by Giacomo Fraccaroli, Neale Mahoney, and Zahra Thabet (Briefing Book, 2024).
    • Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better, by Jennifer Pahlka (2023).
    • Nudge: The Final Edition, by Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein (2021).
    • "HealthCare.gov: Case Study of CMS Management of the Federal Marketplace," by Daniel Levinson (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 2016).

 

  • EXTRAS:
    • "Sludge, Part 1: The World Is Drowning in It," by Freakonomics Radio (2025).
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