“When I wake up 5 minutes before class I don’t want to turn my camera on, they’re not going to see me, so I can stay in my pyjamas. Sometimes kids turn them on, but not often, which is kinda sad... It’s really hard to talk to people when they don’t turn the camera on, and when you’re the only one with your camera on talking to a bunch of profile pictures, you’re not really talking to anybody.”

Episode 63 of The Hope Initiative with Amelia MacDonald.