IT'S A SHORT Trip that has been released four times, it's THAT good.

We're talking about Museum Peace, written by James Swallow, which sees Kalendorf from Big Finish's Dalek Empire series encountering the Eighth Doctor in a museum. And there's a Dalek in it too.

We speak with James, and also Nicholas Briggs, who narrated the story, as well as doing the music and sound design, for its release as an audio Short Trip.

You can find out more about James' work at https://jswallow.com/ and Museum Peace can be bought from the Big Finish website.