Episode No. 66. Cringey Dogma, What started as a conversation about being anti-racist quickly morphed into a discussion about dogmatic ideologies and then took another abrupt turn somehow ending up in a much longer conversation about television entertainment and the soapy shows that make us cringe and yet we still watch. So we started with some "Serious Banter" and ended up in "Cringey Banter." It's quite a ride.