Lorrie: Because Voldemort cursed the curriculum...

JC: If people can't defend themselves on a very basic level -- people can't do critical thinking or media literacy, or just basically being able to do things without having to turn to AI -- that feels like an intentional long game to do damage to society so that people have to rely on something else.

For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.