Carl Safina is a world-renowned ecologist and conservationist, award-winning writer and professor, political activist and visionary. He has won numerous awards for his work, including the MacArthur Genus Prize and National Science Foundation Fellowships. Audubon magazine named Carl Safina among its “100 Notable Conservationists of the 20th Century” and Utne Reader listed him among “25 Visionaries Changing the World." His lyrically inspirational writing has appeared in major newspapers and magazines and his many books include the NY Times best-seller, Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel. He hosted the PBS series Saving the Ocean and is founding president of the not-for-profit Safina Center. His most recent TED Talk received a million views in its first month. His latest book, Alfie and Me: What Owls Know, What Humans Believe is the subject of today’s interview.

Recorded 11/20/23.