I'm joined by investigate reporter Sharon Lerner to discuss the ways that the plastics industry pulls the wool over our eyes in order to keep plastic production growing. We discuss the soft power of so-called recycling in forming a public acceptance of plastic use. Sharon breaks down the ways that the plastic lobby works to subvert democratic process in order to keep their profits high.

Sharon Lerner covers health and the environment. She joined ProPublica in 2022 after seven years as an investigative reporter at The Intercept, where she focused on failures of the environmental regulatory process as well as biosafety and pandemic profiteering.