We all know sleep is important—but did you know it plays a massive role in pain? In this episode, Ryan sits down with Dr David Klyne, a leading researcher in pain and sleep science, to unpack the connection between the two. They discuss how poor sleep can impact pain, why physios should be paying more attention to their patients’ sleep habits, and practical strategies to improve recovery. Whether you’re a physio looking to upskill or just someone who needs better sleep (let’s be honest, that’s most of us), this episode is a must-listen.