Ever think about what makes animals so different from one another? Then zooming in even more, how do we think about differentiating animals within the same species, like the chipper little sap-suckers (a type of woodpecker!)? PhD student Libby Natola studies exactly this-- using genomics behaviour and the ecology of these birds, Libby explores how new species arise. Be sure to listen in on this headbanger of an episode!

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