In this episode of No Contingencies, Liz Ryan and Parker Pemberton sit down with A.J. Pedersen for an unfiltered conversation about leadership, team growth, and what it really takes to scale in real estate.

From A.J.’s path from professional baseball to building a high-performing team, to the hard truths about burnout, delegation, ego, and growth pain, this episode digs into the realities most agents don’t talk about—but should.

If you’re thinking about building a team, growing a brokerage, or surviving the messy middle between hustle and sustainability, this one’s for you.