I think political polarization is one of the biggest problems in our society right now. That's why I started a series of dialogues where I have friendly disagreements over controversial topics with a variety of guests. These conversations are guided by three core principles: scout mindset, non-violent communication, and radical honesty.

In the first episode of the series, I talk to Jamie Woodhouse about the ethics of veganism. Jamie tends to believe veganism is a moral obligation, while I tend to believe there is no such thing as moral obligations, only better and worse actions.

00:00:00 Teaser

00:00:22 Intro

00:02:29 Jamie’s intro

00:03:39 Where we agree

00:07:02 Where we disagree

00:11:58 Moral obligations

00:19:09 Analogy with tallness 

00:24:11 Levels of confidence

00:30:23 Is it natural to eat meat?

00:35:45 Does it matter?

00:43:03 Moral conventions 

00:49:12 Individual vs. systemic change

00:55:27 Reducetarianism vs. abolitionism

01:00:45 Virtue ethics and rule-based utilitarianism

01:07:27 Jamie’s criticism of utilitarianism

01:11:33 Would this change your mind?

01:17:04 Is humane farming possible?

01:21:14 Jamie’s final message

01:24:46 Ending

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