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7. Leaning Into Holy Discomfort: Reflections From Assisi, Florence, and a Season of Expansion


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After returning from a transformational retreat in Assisi—and an unexpected adventure in Florence—Carrie shares the beauty, healing, and spiritual expansion God worked in her heart. From sacred encounters with St. Francis, St. Clare, and St. Carlo Acutis, to private masses, holy hours, and breathtaking basilicas, this episode is a heartfelt reflection on God’s goodness and the power of retreat, silence, and taking time to reflect with God.

She also explores a core theme that emerged both during and after the retreat:
discomfort as a necessary and sacred part of spiritual growth. How God stretches us, strengthens us, and prepares us for our callings through the very moments that feel the most challenging. Carrie explores why discomfort is not something to avoid, but something holy, sacred, and often essential when God is stretching us into the people He created us to be. It is a choice, and an invitation to allow it and welcome it as a normal and expected part of the process of spiritual growth and expansion.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, afraid, unmotivated, or overwhelmed while following God’s lead, this episode will speak right into your soul and encourage you to step forward in faith!

This Week's Invitation:
Spend time journaling or sitting before the Blessed Sacrament and ask:
“Lord, what are You calling me to do that doesn’t feel comfortable?”

Resources Mentioned:

Karla Fitz, The Catholic Life Coach:

Karla's website

Karla's Instagram @thecatholiclifecoach

Gwen Wiseman, Assisi Pilgrimage and Retreat Leader & Author:

Gwen's website

Gwen's books: Living Advent with St. CarloLiving Lent with St. CarloPraying the Rosary with St. Carlo

Gwen's Instagram @gwenofassisi

Heather Martin, Organizer of English mass in Assisi

English Mass resources in Assisi

Heather's Instagram @englishmassinassisi



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The Living Whole and Holy PodcastBy Carrie Jain