In this episode Jobie and Abigail reflect on the madness of lockdown and discuss at what point they had an awakening to what was really going on during that time and even before.

They talk through the impact it had on friendships and how they have rebuilt their lives since, the positive impact of the Canadian trucker convoy and what a turning point that was in Canada. They share their gratitude on how different they are because of these experiences and that they have no regrets about not doing their part in compliance.

This subject is triggering, but we feel it's important to remember and talk freely about this collective trauma we all experienced; how can we heal and learn unless we open up share process and learn?