This episode is with CMO of Wooly, Nick Stagge. I've spent some time working with him at ExpertVoice and he's also spent 10 years at Zumiez. 

We talk about proving things to yourself, my layoff story at ExpertVoice, what it's like to have to lay people off as well, and skate culture and how it applies to his work.

This is a pretty personal episode and I think you'll gain a lot from the conversation. 

Check out my "new" collection of songs The Solo Years on Spotify here.