About self—actualization, occupational dispensability, Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, a society without art, affective altruism, whether art is luxury or necessity, Ayn Rand’s capitalism, Malevich’s suprematism, and rabbits.

Maja Malmcrona (@majamalmcrona) is an artist from Sweden. T is a software tester from the United Kingdom. They both live in Zürich, Switzerland.

Recorded in Zürich on March 5, 2021.