In this episode, I talk with Matthias Roberts, writer, podcaster, theologian, and therapist, about shame - what it is, how it functions interpersonally, and how we might work with our own shame to seek resilience and healing in order to stop putting it on other people.

RECOMMENDED RESOURCES:

• The Power of Vulnerability

FIND MATTHIAS:

• Matthiasroberts.com
• Instagram
• Queerology podcast

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I’m Annie Mesaros: a theologian, writer, spiritual guide, and host of this podcast. I offer coaching and facilitation for individuals and groups that are working to transform the world for good. 

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