This week I chat to Stevie Modern, president of the Humanist Society of WA. Humanism is a rational, "secular, moral alternative to religion and dogmatic creeds". Basically, be nice to other humans even if you don't believe in a god.

This episode we talk about the relevance of humanism in Australia today and discuss atheist "coming out" experiences, Stevie tells us about the religious indoctrination of school kids that's still going on today, and he calls for a more rational, fact-based approach to refugees.

Check them out on Facebook or Meetup under Humanist Society of WA.