This week's podcast explores when lying is a crime. A challenge to a law that makes lying about military honors is currently pending before the United States Supreme Court. We'll hear some of the Solicitor General's defense of that law, and we speak with NACDL member, attorney Michael Schafler, an author of NACDL's friend of the court brief in that case. We also speak with Richard Samp, Chief Counsel of the Washington Legal Foundation, a public interest law firm in Washington, D.C., and Tiffany Joslyn, NACDL White Collar Crime Policy Counsel and co-author of a groundbreaking report entitled, Without Intent: How Congress is Eroding the Criminal Intent Requirements in Federal Law. Learn more about NACDL. Music West Bank (Lezet) / CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 and Walkabout (Digital Primitives) / CC BY-NC-ND 3.0.