While many think that consumer grade Augmented Reality is still many years out, Meta believes differently. Meta is only a few months away from shipping the Meta 2 headset and the reviews are already promising some very exciting stuff.

Ryan Pamplin is Meta’s VP of brand evangelism. Overseeing evangelism, building partnerships, and monitoring developer relations.

Ryan and I discuss his fascinating professional and personal history, from his past company creating commercials for the Super Bowl to his friendship with Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, and of course we discuss all of the amazing work that they’re accomplishing at Meta with some of the most advanced AR at this point in time.