When Jill Devine was on maternity leave with her youngest daughter, she had a text exchange with one of her "non-mom" friends, Rachel Zimmerman.  The night before their exchange, Jill experienced a weak moment with the baby (one of many) and she told Rachel about it. 

Rachel's response wasn't what Jill was expecting and Jill wasn't sure why she didn't expect that kind of response.  Rachel and Jill discuss the text exchange and Jill’s unexpected thoughts in this week’s episode, along with Rachel’s thoughts on motherhood.

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