When people think about Malcolm X they are likely to have strong feelings one way or the other, whether or not they are familiar with his life and writing. Phillip Holmes is our guest this week and he and his longtime friend, rapper and pastor Taelor Gray, have set out to examine the words and life of Malcolm X from a Christian perspective and to set the record straight a bit. We had a wonderful time with him (which is reflected in the episode length) and we hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did!

Shoutouts:

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Stop talking about CRT/racism if you're not reading your Bible

Windows and Mirrors podcast

Redeeming Power by Diane Langberg 

Autiobiography of Malcolm X by Alex Haley 

Mother To Son by Jasmine Holmes 

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