We're on sabpodical but here's a long talk on racism with our friend Justin, who has a black and a white parent and has experience racism on all sides. We hope you enjoy his story and our shallow dive into deep topics.

Regular, weekly episodes will resume in September, Lord willing!

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Intro/Outro music Bringing Down Broadway