I met up with Simeon Hein recently at the International Congress on Consciousness in Miami where he was a presenter. As the conference was wrapping up, we recorded an interview that is a deep dive into the UFOlogical rabbit hole. We covered a great many key topics such as: psychological and cultural reasons for irrational resistance to paranormal research, key paranormal events in Simeon’s early life, and what NASA and aerospace insiders say about hidden NASA space programs, reverse engineering of extra-terrestrial craft, etc.