In this episode of The Barn Philosopher, Shelby shares a tough and thought-provoking workplace story—one where trying to correct someone’s mistakes quickly turned into an accusation of racism. Despite having a diverse family, Shelby chooses not to “play the race card” in response. Instead, he reflects on how people sometimes deflect accountability by reaching for the wrong defense.

Ridge and Shelby dive into a deeper conversation about responsibility, identity, and the social awkwardness of calling out poor behavior in today’s climate. And of course, no episode would be complete without a little levity—this time courtesy of a beer called Dragon’s Milk and the questionable wisdom it inspires.

Honest talk, personal stories, and a little bourbon-barrel-aged humor—tune in now on Apple, Spotify, iHeartRadio, and more.