Pat and Nat discuss what Patty lights up about. He is a man with lots of endeavors- one of which is creating a TV series, he has written 2 seasons of and is filming the pilot episode.Pat also does contracting work.

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His favorite quote is: If it doesn’t make sense, it’s not true. – Judge JudyHe says it's a bit humorous but is helpful in life to test people's motives and intentions of what they do and say.

We also touched on this quote: Forget yourself and go to work. It’s a quote that stuck with Gordon B Hinckley His whole life. It means that you should stop worrying about yourself and keep your nose to the GrindstoneAs he works on his 4 big endeavors he reiterated the importance of getting things done and working hard for what you want. Enjoy!