In this week's interview episode, we're joined by Katenna Jones. Katenna has a breadth of animal care and welfare experience under her belt, from shelter work to cruelty investigation, and for this episode, we're ecstatic Katenna agreed to talk about cats!

In this episode, you’re going to hear Emily and Katenna talk about:

• New ways of thinking about pottying outside the litter box
• Making sure cats know what you’re offering them
• Cultivating a cat-centric point of view
• Why cats require precision training
• Why suppression sometimes works, but still isn’t a good idea

You can find the full episode show notes here.