Carl Brokenhorse Koehler is an herbalist, arborist, and naturalist of Haudenosaunee and European descent. He has been studying indigenous medicine for 20+ years, and is the author of the book Talking Trees & Spirit Trails about Native American trail trees in New York State. In this episode he and Eric talk about indigenous herbalism, medicine as relationship, the role of questioning and storytelling in the educational process, among other things.