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In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, world health officials agreed that many more lives could have been saved had there been better global coordination. In 2021, countries came together to draft a pandemic treaty committing to better future responses and pledging to sign it within two years. But deadlines have come and gone, the draft revised many times over. In a race to secure an agreement before the next pandemic, countries must reckon with historic inequities, vaccine access, data sharing, and more.
Guests:Alexandra Phelan is an expert in global health law and an associate professor and senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.
Host:Lindsay Smith Rogers, MA, is the producer of the Public Health On Call podcast, an editor for Expert Insights, and the director of content strategy for the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
Show links and related content:Ignore the disinformation—the US is safer with a global pandemic treaty—The Hill (Opinion)
The world needs the new pandemic treaty—STAT (Opinion)
A pandemic agreement is within reach—Science
Global pandemic treaty to be concluded by 2025, WHO says—Reuters
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In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, world health officials agreed that many more lives could have been saved had there been better global coordination. In 2021, countries came together to draft a pandemic treaty committing to better future responses and pledging to sign it within two years. But deadlines have come and gone, the draft revised many times over. In a race to secure an agreement before the next pandemic, countries must reckon with historic inequities, vaccine access, data sharing, and more.
Guests:Alexandra Phelan is an expert in global health law and an associate professor and senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.
Host:Lindsay Smith Rogers, MA, is the producer of the Public Health On Call podcast, an editor for Expert Insights, and the director of content strategy for the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
Show links and related content:Ignore the disinformation—the US is safer with a global pandemic treaty—The Hill (Opinion)
The world needs the new pandemic treaty—STAT (Opinion)
A pandemic agreement is within reach—Science
Global pandemic treaty to be concluded by 2025, WHO says—Reuters
Have a question about something you heard? Want to suggest a topic or guest? Contact us via email or visit our website.
Follow us:@PublicHealthPod on X
@JohnsHopkinsSPH on Instagram
@JohnsHopkinsSPH on Facebook
@PublicHealthOnCall on YouTube
Here's our RSS feed

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