Katy and Jenn discuss the latest in celebrity political commentary, on illegal immigration and gay marriage, showing that they don't practice what they preach to others. They discuss the Greater Than launch to retake marriage on behalf of kids and how Katy's X account was hacked by bitcoin scammers. (Listen to the end of the episode for the update on that!) Follow TBU's work at thembeforeus.substack.com and join Greater Than at greaterthancampaign.com.