My pal and former coworker Joe Klein joins me in the virtual studio to discuss:

• His career as a diesel mechanic and insurance guru
• How to leave a stable job, take a huge pay cut and start a risky infosec internship (sounds like the name of a broadway musical!)
• The start of his new career as a SOC analyst
• The importance of having a career cheerleader/mentor
• Being hungry for knowledge and certifications without being ashamed or afraid to look like a newb
• CompTIA Security+ and Cisco CCNA Cyber Ops certs
• The proper pronunciation of the word "dude"
• How to do a proper Arnold Schwarzenegger impression

Other references made in the episode:

• Arnold Schwarzenegger the love poet

Joe welcomes your comments, concerns, insults and questions via email (listen to today's episode for the address!) or Twitter.