In this episode, Nav is joined by consultant ophthalmologists Elizabeth Hawkes and James Neffendorf — a husband-and-wife duo balancing private practice, surgical careers, and family life. Specialising in oculoplastic surgery and retinal surgery respectively, they offer a unique lens into the world of modern eye care.

Nav, Elizabeth, and James explore the changing face of training in ophthalmology and aesthetics, the rise of the private sector in delivering care and mentorship, and the pitfalls of short-cutting formal training. They also reflect on building a career with long-term satisfaction, the realities of running a clinic, and how to responsibly expand a practice while raising a family. From ptosis surgery and laser eye treatments to retinal trauma and medtech startups, this conversation offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to build a sustainable and fulfilling surgical career.

Whether you're a trainee navigating the current system, a consultant eyeing private practice, or simply curious about the day-to-day life of two top eye surgeons, this episode is packed with practical insights and candid reflections.

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About The REAL Clinic:
The REAL Clinic is a renowned centre for excellence in aesthetic treatment, cosmetic surgery, and eye care, located in London’s Battersea. Led by some of the UK’s top specialists, it is committed to evidence-based treatments and patient safety.

Sponsor:
The Real Clinic Podcast is proudly sponsored by 42 South Films, a London-based video production company helping surgeons and clinics elevate their marketing through high-quality video content.