Seja talk to her guest Benjamin Law about how he got into writing and how he became a freelance journalist for publications such as Frankie, The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald. They also discuss how Ben started writing his own books and how his memoir 'The Family Law' got made into a television series for SBS.

Ben's strange story is illustrated by Hannah Crofts (@hannahmarjorie) of the beautiful band All Our Exes Live In Texas, and her fantastic picture can be seen on the HearSej Instagram (@hearsejpodcast) or on the HearSej Facebook page (www.facebook.com/hearsej).