In this episode, Jacob speaks with Dario Fabbri, a journalist, scientific advisor and the America Coordinator at Limes, an Italian Journal on Geopolitics. The go back and forth on the future of the European Union, the malleability of European identity and NATO. 
Here are the detailed timestamps for this episode if you want to listen to a specific portion: 

1:42-13:22 - COVID 19’s impact of Italian perceptions of the EU

13:23-29:29 - How malleable is European Identity?

29:30-36:51 - Introduction to the NATO Discussion

36:52-39:02 - Will Turkey be in NATO in 10 years?

39:03- 41:36 - Will France be in NATO in 10 years?

41:37-46:58 - What is NATO’s main purpose presently?

46:59-51:42 - Italy/China relations post COVID

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