On this episode of Always Sometimes, my dear friend Ella Frauenhofer joins me to chat about the power of music, her high school wardrobe, driving, birthdays, professional athletes, her ideal three course meal, and the art of letting go. 

You can find Ella and her fashion entity Sensual at Best on Instagram at @disco.lord and @sab.h2t, respectively. 

Recorded 4/24/23. Hosted and produced by Tom.

Intro and outro created using audio from freesound.org and the voices of friends.