From "frenemies" to "like a brother" I guess, Hope hops on the pod today to talk about the evolution of our friendship in Colorado, her time as an athletic trainer for the Ohio State football team, and a couple of different rankings (we're talking cities and movies). Also, please ignore the dogs barking as I'm told they don't like being held hostage.

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Host: Lucas Abreu

Guest: Hope Leimbach

Producer: Lucas Abreu

Music by: Dan R. Howard

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