John started off learning his trade as a carpenter in a Sawmill & Joinery shop before scaling the heights to become Director at RG Group, a multi million pound main contractor firm. Not only that, he was also Roger’s first boss - so he spills the dirt! And, for the first time, we have included a full, unedited version of the interview - so be prepared for a two and half hour long episode - we think it’s that good we didn’t want to cut anything out!