Super Meat Boy designer and programmer Tommy Refenes joins me to talk about the original indie hit and its upcoming sequel, Super Meat Boy Forever, his appearance on Indie Game: The Movie, the Wii port's cancellation, and gaming difficulty & accessibility.

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