“When you said ‘Do you want to be on my podcast?’ I was like, ‘No, I actually don’t’. In my head I’m thinking, what if I say something I shouldn’t, or tell a story I don’t want everyone else to hear? Or, what if something I say has a profound effect on someone else’s life? And it’s something that I’ve taken over the last few months and elevated into my life. And that’s the importance of conversation.”

Episode #8 of The Hope Initiative with Nic Holt.