Heyoooo deep conversationalists, your hosts Meg and Fran are back! This time our cool uncle Steven (who also happens to be a very insightful clinical social worker) is dropping by to unpack the saying “rolling with the punches.” What does that really mean when looking at major life events and how it shaped us today? How did we manage, and continue to manage and learn from, these challenges? Dive into the deep end with us—and we hope you get something out of the convo.

00:04:40: our weeks

00:15:40: part 1: “just make lemonade out of lemons” = the worst. Meg, alcoholism, grief, and numbing. Fran and religion. (“They are going through a lot of shit.” – Steven from the sidelines.)

00:35:45: part 2: “religion is like a dick.” Steven, appearance, and weight. Taking ownership of our own experiences.

00:43:50: part 3: how did we and do we “roll with the punches”? Meg and accepting the fuck-ups. Identifying her weaknesses. Learned behavior and looking inward. Soberness and the numbing effect. Fran, freedom, and the journey of being whole. She’s not shy and small. Steven, trust, and “the old body.” Feeling his body untangle and develop. Awareness helps make conscious decisions (e.g., the thumb exercise). Wrap-up: Strategies include acceptance, embracing the journey, and mindfulness.

01:14:00: Steven’s recs: “I Love Me” by Demi Lovato; The ILLUSTRATED Happiness Trap (acceptance commitment therapy); Hardwiring Happiness (positive psychology).

01:18:00: what we’re loving this week: Return to Zero, Native deodorant, Disclosure. Quote of the Day/Week: “dress-rehearsing tragedy.”

Link to video of episode: https://bit.ly/3f47zkH 

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Music:

Intro + Transitions: https://soundcloud.com/bearcitysound/substance

Transitions: https://soundcloud.com/iamryanlittle/maybe-next-time

Outro: https://soundcloud.com/bloomchild/imallryt-stronger