April's government payments to NWT daycares and dayhomes – designed to help introduce $10-a-day childcare – were late.

Some childcare providers say the federal and territorial governments are racing too quickly to make changes. Meanwhile, people trying to build new daycares in smaller communities like Norman Wells can't get the money they need.

Speaking to Cabin Radio, the territorial minister responsible apologized for the latest problems. Caitlin Cleveland told us how she wants to fix things and make NWT childcare better.

In this podcast, hear from the minister and people at the heart of the industry about what's going on.