Steven speaks to his friend Ryan (who is an actor, author, and animator among other things) about his creative process, being creative, and why he gets out of bed in the morning.

This is a slightly meta episode that was recorded well before the first episode of the podcast was ever released. Half interview with Ryan and half Ryan giving Steven a motivational speech and advice on being a creative person. Steven was, and indeed still is, struggling with trying to pin down exactly what he wants this podcast to be, this was the first step in trying to identify what it will be.